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A question of love
Posted by lili on Sun 8 Oct 00, 8:07 PM
A question which is often raised when discussing
ownership based relationships is whether or not there
must be love in order for that relationship to flourish
and grow and
I believe the answer to this is a difficult one, and I
suppose it depends entirely on what kind of a
Master/slave "relationship" you are talking about and
indeed what type of "love" you are talking about.
In a legally bound Master/slave "relationship" (those
interactions found only in slave owning societies) then
no, love does not have to exist for slavery to be
maintained, although often slaves did, and indeed still
do, come to love their Masters (and the Masters their
Even in the bible we read: 'but if the servant
declares "I love my Master and my wife and children and
do not wish to go free" then the Master shall take
him before the judges. He shall take him to the door or
the post of the door and pierce his ear with an awl.
Then he will be his servant for life.' (Exodus 21:35.5)
We see a different kind of love develop and bind
a "servant" with a "Master" where the Master is
responsible for the spiritual enlightenment of
the servant (for example the religious based
relationship of a "Buddhist" or "Zen" Master who guides
and nurtures his charge.)
There are also examples of Master/slave relationships
which exclude "loving" for a specific reason. The
Master-slave interaction seen in the gay leather
communities in which a contract binds the slave with
the Master but love is actively discouraged in order to
promote and enhance the Master's sense of authority and
objectification of his slave.
Personally I know that I would not flourish and grow in
any relationship in which I felt unloved, furthermore I
find it difficult to understand why on earth anyone
would choose to spend the rest of their lives with
someone they did not love. Whether that love is
romantic love or some other form of love is, I feel,
Someone once asked "Is love a feeling that is, at
times, shown as another feeling"?
For me, the answer to that question would be "worship".
Edited Fri 6 Jul 01, 9:49 PM by lili